Wounded Nation The lights are literally and figuratively going out all
over South Africa as crime, corruption and mismanagement push the rainbow country towards becoming another failed african state.
By Fred Bridgland in Johannesburg AFTER BATHING in the warm, fuzzy glow of the Mandela years, South Africans today are deeply demoralised people. The lights are going out in homes, mines, factories and shopping malls as the national power authority, Eskom - suffering from mismanagement, lack of foresight, a failure to maintain power stations and a flight of skilled engineers to other countries - implements rolling power cuts that plunge towns and cities into daily chaos.
Major industrial projects are on hold. The only healthy enterprise now worth being involved in is the sale of small diesel generators to powerless households but even this business has run out of supplies and spare parts from China.
The currency, the rand, has entered freefall. Crime, much of it gratuitously violent, is rampant, and the national police chief faces trial for corruption and defeating the ends of justice as a result of his alleged deals with a local mafia kingpin and dealer in hard drugs.
Newly elected African National Congress (ANC) leader Jacob Zuma, the state president-in-waiting, narrowly escaped being jailed for raping an HIV-positive woman last year, and faces trial later this year for soliciting and accepting bribes in connection with South Africa's shady multi-billion-pound arms deal with British, German and French weapons manufacturers.
One local newspaper columnist suggests that Zuma has done for South Africa's international image what Borat has done for Kazakhstan. ANC leaders in 2008 still speak in the spiritually dead jargon they learned in exile in pre-1989 Moscow, East Berlin and Sofia while promiscuously embracing capitalist icons - Mercedes 4x4s, Hugo Boss suits, Bruno Magli shoes and Louis Vuitton bags which they swing, packed with money passed to them under countless tables - as they wing their way to their houses in the south of France.
It all adds up to a hydra-headed crisis of huge proportions - a perfect storm as the Rainbow Nation slides off the end of the rainbow and descends in the direction of the massed ranks of failed African states. Eskom has warned foreign investors with millions to sink into big industrial and mining projects: we don't want you here until at least 2013, when new power stations will be built.
In the first month of this year, the rand fell 12% against the world's major currencies and foreign investors sold off more than £600 million worth of South African stocks, the biggest sell-off for more than seven years.
"There will be further outflows this month, because there won't be any news that will convince investors the local growth picture is going to change for the better," said Rudi van der Merwe, a fund manager at South Africa's Standard Bank.
Commenting on the massive power cuts, Trevor Gaunt, professor of electrical engineering at the University of Cape Town, who warned the government eight years ago of the impending crisis, said: "The damage is huge, and now South Africa looks just like the rest of Africa. Maybe it will take 20 years to recover."
The power cuts have hit the country's platinum, gold, manganese and high-quality export coal mines particularly hard, with no production on some days and only 40% to 60% on others.
"The shutdown of the mining industry is an extraordinary, unprecedented event," said Anton Eberhard, a leading energy expert and professor of business studies at the University of Cape Town.
"That's a powerful message, massively damaging to South Africa's reputation for new investment. Our country was built on the mines."
To examine how the country, widely hailed as Africa's last best chance, arrived at this parlous state, the particular troubles engulfing the Scorpions (the popular name of the National Prosecuting Authority) offers a useful starting point.
The elite unit, modelled on America's FBI and operating in close co-operation with Britain's Serious Fraud Office (SFO), is one of the big successes of post-apartheid South Africa. An independent institution, separate from the slipshod South African Police Service, the Scorpions enjoy massive public support.
The unit's edict is to focus on people "who commit and profit from organised crime", and it has been hugely successful in carrying out its mandate. It has pursued and pinned down thousands of high-profile and complex networks of national and international corporate and public fraudsters.
Drug kingpins, smugglers and racketeers have felt the Scorpions' sting. A major gang that smuggle platinum, South Africa's biggest foreign exchange earner, to a corrupt English smelting plant has been bust as the result of a huge joint operation between the SFO and the Scorpions. But the Scorpions, whose top men were trained by Scotland Yard, have been too successful for their own good.
The ANC government never anticipated the crack crimebusters would take their constitutional independence seriously and investigate the top ranks of the former liberation movement itself.
The Scorpions have probed into, and successfully prosecuted, ANC MPs who falsified their parliamentary expenses. They secured a jail sentence for the ANC's chief whip, who took bribes from the German weapons manufacturer that sold frigates and submarines to the South African Defence Force. They sent to jail for 15 years a businessman who paid hundreds of bribes to then state vice-president Jacob Zuma in connection with the arms deal. Zuma was found by the judge to have a corrupt relationship with the businessman, and now the Scorpions have charged Zuma himself with fraud, corruption, tax evasion, racketeering and defeating the ends of justice. His trial will begin in August.
The Scorpions last month charged Jackie Selebi, the national police chief, a close friend of state president Thabo Mbeki, with corruption and defeating the ends of justice. Commissioner Selebi, who infamously called a white police sergeant a "f***ing chimpanzee" when she failed to recognise him during an unannounced visit to her Pretoria station, has stepped down pending his trial.
But now both wings of the venomously divided ANC - ANC-Mbeki and ANC-Zuma - want the Scorpions crushed, ideally by June this year. The message this will send to the outside world is that South Africa's rulers want only certain categories of crime investigated, while leaving government ministers and other politicians free to stuff their already heavily lined pockets.
No good reason for emasculating the Scorpions has been put forward. "That's because there isn't one," said Peter Bruce, editor of the influential Business Day, South Africa's equivalent of, and part-owned by, The Financial Times, in his weekly column.
"The Scorpions are being killed off because they investigate too much corruption that involves ANC leaders. It is as simple and ugly as that," he added.
The demise of the Scorpions can only exacerbate South Africa's out-of-control crime situation, ranked for its scale and violence only behind Colombia. Everyone has friends and acquaintances who have had guns held to their heads by gangsters, who also blow up ATM machines and hijack security trucks, sawing off their roofs to get at the cash.
In the past few days my next-door neighbour, John Matshikiza, a distinguished actor who trained at the Royal Shakespeare Company and is the son of the composer of the South African musical King Kong, had been violently attacked, and friends visiting from Zimbabwe had their car stolen outside my front window in broad daylight.
My friends flew home to Zimbabwe without their car and the tinned food supplies they had bought to help withstand their country's dire political and food crisis and 27,000% inflation. Matshikiza, a former member of the Glasgow Citizens Theatre company, was held up by three gunmen as he drove his car into his garage late at night. He gave them his car keys, wallet, cellphone and luxury watch and begged them not to harm his partner, who was inside the house.
As one gunman drove the car away, the other two beat Matshikiza unconscious with broken bottles, and now his head is so comprehensively stitched that it looks like a map of the London Underground.
These assaults were personal, but mild compared with much commonplace crime.
Last week, for example, 18-year-old Razelle Botha, who passed all her A-levels with marks of more than 90% and was about to train as a doctor, returned home with her father, Professor Willem Botha, founder of the geophysics department at the University of Pretoria, from buying pizzas for the family. Inside the house, armed gunmen confronted them. They shot Professor Botha in the leg and pumped bullets into Razelle.
One severed her spine. Now she is fighting for her life and will never walk again, and may never become a doctor. The gunmen stole a laptop computer and a camera.
Feeding the perfect storm are the two centres of ANC power in the country at the moment. On the one hand, there is the ANC in parliament, led by President Mbeki, who last Friday gave a state-of-the-nation address and apologised to the country for the power crisis.
Mbeki made only the briefest of mentions of the national Aids crisis, with more than six million people HIV-positive. He did not address the Scorpions crisis. The collapsing public hospital system, under his eccentric health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang, an alcoholic who recently jumped the public queue for a liver transplant, received no attention. And the name Jacob Zuma did not pass his lips.
Last December Mbeki and Zuma stood against each other for the leadership of the ANC at the party's five-yearly electoral congress. Mbeki, who cannot stand again as state president beyond next year's parliamentary and presidential elections, hoped to remain the power behind the throne of a new state president of his choosing.
Zuma, a Zulu populist with some 20 children by various wives and mistresses, hoped to prove that last year's rape case, and the trial he faces this year for corruption and other charges, were part of a plot by Mbeki to use state institutions to discredit him. Mbeki assumed that the notion of Zuma assuming next year the mantle worn by Nelson Mandela as South Africa's first black state president would be so appalling to delegates, a deeply sad and precipitous decline, that his own re-election as ANC leader was a shoo-in.
But Mbeki completely miscalculated his own unpopularity - his perceived arrogance, failure to solve health and crime problems, his failure to deliver to the poor - and he lost. Now Zuma insists that he is the leader of the country and ANC MPs in parliament must take its orders from him, while Mbeki soldiers on until next year as state president, ordering MPs to toe his line.
Greatly understated, it is a mess. Its scale will be dramatically illustrated if South Africa's hosting of the 2010 World Cup is withdrawn by Fifa, the world football body.
Already South African premier league football evening games are being played after midnight because power for floodlights cannot be guaranteed before that time. Justice Malala, one of the country's top newspaper columnists, has called on Fifa to end the agony quickly.
"I don't want South Africa to host the football World Cup because there is no culture of responsibility in this country," he wrote in Johannesburg's bestselling Sunday Times.
"The most outrageous behaviour and incompetence is glossed over. No-one is fired. I have had enough of this nonsense, of keeping quiet and ignoring the fact that the train is about to run us over.
"It is increasingly clear that our leaders are incapable of making a success of it. Scrap the thing and give it to Australia, Germany or whoever will spare us the ignominy of watching things fall apart here - football tourists being held up and shot, the lights going out, while our politicians tell us everything is all right."
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Posted by: Wullie on 3:21am Sun 10 Feb 08
Sadly it would appear that South Africa may be going the way of Rhodesia and all of the other failed African states.
But that is the way of African politics and African culture. Relative democracy and stable societies are unfortunately hard to find in the African continent despite that continent's natural wealth.
Sadly it would appear that South Africa may be going the way of Rhodesia and all of the other failed African states.
But that is the way of African politics and African culture. Relative democracy and stable societies are unfortunately hard to find in the African continent despite that continent's natural wealth.
Posted by: C MacAoidh, South Africa on 4:54am Sun 10 Feb 08
It must be a bit worrying for someone sitting in Scotland reading this article. But just think of this poor guy who spent 20 years in Glasgow, 20 years in Rhodesia, 24 years in South Africa and now wondering, "Where to next". The really sad thing is that the article is accurate!
It must be a bit worrying for someone sitting in Scotland reading this article. But just think of this poor guy who spent 20 years in Glasgow, 20 years in Rhodesia, 24 years in South Africa and now wondering, "Where to next". The really sad thing is that the article is accurate!
Posted by: Brian J Deller, Marbella Spain on 5:57am Sun 10 Feb 08
As someone who "escaped" South Africa in 1999, after optimistically staying on for 5 yrs.(living there for 25 yrs) after the ANC came to power, and then realising that the new SA is another Zimbabwe in the making, I now wonder who the real racists are. Those who know Africa and were in power with plans to develop it correctly for the benefit of everybody, even if it took 100 yrs. or those who patronisingly called its successful white government racist and condemned yet another African country to abject poverty. My money is on the latter. As with Zim. many blacks will pine for the days of Apartheid when they could afford to live, were not constantly in danger of being murdered, robbed or raped by criminals including those in the ANC, and when the SA Rand was worth something. Shame on all those who are now proven to be the racists who were wrong: unless, of course to kill and impoverish blacks was your plan all along.
As someone who "escaped" South Africa in 1999, after optimistically staying on for 5 yrs.(living there for 25 yrs) after the ANC came to power, and then realising that the new SA is another Zimbabwe in the making, I now wonder who the real racists are. Those who know Africa and were in power with plans to develop it correctly for the benefit of everybody, even if it took 100 yrs. or those who patronisingly called its successful white government racist and condemned yet another African country to abject poverty. My money is on the latter. As with Zim. many blacks will pine for the days of Apartheid when they could afford to live, were not constantly in danger of being murdered, robbed or raped by criminals including those in the ANC, and when the SA Rand was worth something. Shame on all those who are now proven to be the racists who were wrong: unless, of course to kill and impoverish blacks was your plan all along.
Posted by: john, Hong Kong on 6:05am Sun 10 Feb 08
An all to familiar picture of post colonial Africa.Every country that gained independance has regressed in real terms.The answer though is maybe not to judge these states by European standards.
An all to familiar picture of post colonial Africa.Every country that gained independance has regressed in real terms.The answer though is maybe not to judge these states by European standards.
Posted by: Marvin Caldwell-Barr, Kempton Park, South Africa on 7:04am Sun 10 Feb 08
This ANC government has put the country on the slippery slope, gravity has taken over and there's only one way to go: straight down to the bottom. Sadly, it seems to be inevitable in Africa. And a lot of people are saying, "We told you so."
This ANC government has put the country on the slippery slope, gravity has taken over and there's only one way to go: straight down to the bottom. Sadly, it seems to be inevitable in Africa. And a lot of people are saying, "We told you so."
Posted by: I'm no really here on 12:26pm Sun 10 Feb 08
What's the difference between South Africa and the Titanic? The Titanic sank with it's light still on.
The Rand has lost R2 against the pound in the week following the Government's declared Emergency Crisis.
If you are coming over for the World Cup in 2010, there is no point now in asking you to switch off the lights when you leave. No longer South Africa - more like South Zimbabwe.
What's the difference between South Africa and the Titanic? The Titanic sank with it's light still on.
The Rand has lost R2 against the pound in the week following the Government's declared Emergency Crisis.
If you are coming over for the World Cup in 2010, there is no point now in asking you to switch off the lights when you leave. No longer South Africa - more like South Zimbabwe.
Posted by: Scamp on 1:18pm Sun 10 Feb 08
There's no doubt in my own mind that the decolonisation of Africa happened probably 100 years too early. Even Kenya which was held up as an example of African democracy has slipped back into what is effectively tribal warfare.
The fault lies I'm afraid with the USA and the PC brigade. The USA insisted on the UK giving up its African and other colonies after WW2 because it was intent on destroying our global influence. The PC brigade simply took the naive view that it was entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
Still, too late now. The damage is done and only if and when some genuinely democratic African leaders that don't suffer from a chip on their should rise up out of this mess and take charge can I see there being any real improvement.
There's no doubt in my own mind that the decolonisation of Africa happened probably 100 years too early. Even Kenya which was held up as an example of African democracy has slipped back into what is effectively tribal warfare.
The fault lies I'm afraid with the USA and the PC brigade. The USA insisted on the UK giving up its African and other colonies after WW2 because it was intent on destroying our global influence. The PC brigade simply took the naive view that it was entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
Still, too late now. The damage is done and only if and when some genuinely democratic African leaders that don't suffer from a chip on their should rise up out of this mess and take charge can I see there being any real improvement.
Posted by: Lobeydosser, Woodlands Road on 2:00pm Sun 10 Feb 08
When the 'white flight' starts (if it has not started already), will we, as Scots, be ready and willing to receive them and use their knowledge, skills and experience for our benefit?
When the 'white flight' starts (if it has not started already), will we, as Scots, be ready and willing to receive them and use their knowledge, skills and experience for our benefit?
Posted by: Walton, Glasgow on 2:22pm Sun 10 Feb 08
As a white South African living Scotland, it's always interesting to observe reports of my country's immanent demise in the papers.
It's also really sad how all the racists and Afro-pessimists crawl out of their holes, rubbing their greasy paws with glee at yet more evidence of African failure.
I am surprised that Bridgland's one-sided, simplistic and factually inaccurate article even got published. He simply parrots the views of South Africa's white opposition party, and ignores the perspectives of the Black majority.
It is true that there is a lot seriously wrong with South Africa - one of the reasons I am in temporary exile. I am also appalled at the South African government, which has delivered so much less than we hoped for.
Yet I visit South Africa regularly (I was there when Zuma beat Mbeki to become ANC president), and the reality is far more complex and nuanced than this article suggests. Despite serious problems, the country is far from a lot cause.
Despite everything, the country today is infinitely better than it was under apartheid, and it is still a work in progress.
To suggest that South Africa is heading the way of Zimbabwe and other failed African states is an ignorance and superficiality of analysis that is astounding in an international correspondent - Bridgland doesn't deserve to write for newspapers if he can't come up with better than his pessimistic tales of woe.
I have more faith in South Africa's future than in Britain's. It's the UK that really frightens me, with it's addiction to war, overblown sense of importance and the intrusive surveillance of all it's citizens.
As a white South African living Scotland, it's always interesting to observe reports of my country's immanent demise in the papers.
It's also really sad how all the racists and Afro-pessimists crawl out of their holes, rubbing their greasy paws with glee at yet more evidence of African failure.
I am surprised that Bridgland's one-sided, simplistic and factually inaccurate article even got published. He simply parrots the views of South Africa's white opposition party, and ignores the perspectives of the Black majority.
It is true that there is a lot seriously wrong with South Africa - one of the reasons I am in temporary exile. I am also appalled at the South African government, which has delivered so much less than we hoped for.
Yet I visit South Africa regularly (I was there when Zuma beat Mbeki to become ANC president), and the reality is far more complex and nuanced than this article suggests. Despite serious problems, the country is far from a lot cause.
Despite everything, the country today is infinitely better than it was under apartheid, and it is still a work in progress.
To suggest that South Africa is heading the way of Zimbabwe and other failed African states is an ignorance and superficiality of analysis that is astounding in an international correspondent - Bridgland doesn't deserve to write for newspapers if he can't come up with better than his pessimistic tales of woe.
I have more faith in South Africa's future than in Britain's. It's the UK that really frightens me, with it's addiction to war, overblown sense of importance and the intrusive surveillance of all it's citizens.
Posted by: James, Cape Town on 3:29pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Thank you Walton. I couldn't agree more. This article as well a many of the comments are ludicrously inaccurate.
What I would suggest to them is to stay where you are. We'll enjoy all the wonderful things SA has to offer quite well without you!
Thank you Walton. I couldn't agree more. This article as well a many of the comments are ludicrously inaccurate.
What I would suggest to them is to stay where you are. We'll enjoy all the wonderful things SA has to offer quite well without you!
Posted by: ally on 4:16pm Sun 10 Feb 08
If Walton feels that Britain really frightens him,what is he doing here? Nobody is forcing him to stay.
If Walton feels that Britain really frightens him,what is he doing here? Nobody is forcing him to stay.
Posted by: Graham, Johannesburg on 7:14pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I'm Ex pat Uk living here since 1980.That article basically sums up the whole situation.I've tried to be positive in my attitude so far but am so fed up now that i'm considering moving back to europe.There is so much inaptitude here in all levels of service delivery.This Eskom story is the icing on the cake.Its ridiculous.
I'm Ex pat Uk living here since 1980.That article basically sums up the whole situation.I've tried to be positive in my attitude so far but am so fed up now that i'm considering moving back to europe.There is so much inaptitude here in all levels of service delivery.This Eskom story is the icing on the cake.Its ridiculous.
Posted by: Amir Mizroch, Israel on 9:32pm Sun 10 Feb 08
This is what I'm hearing from a few people in the JHB Jewish community.
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This is what I'm hearing from a few people in the JHB Jewish community.
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Posted by: Oscar, durban on 7:27am Mon 11 Feb 08
Thanks Walton of Glasgow. This article is written by one of the pessimists. People who cant take problems and turn them into chalenges. There really is nothin impossible. We'l hv no recession, we'l hv Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth. May some of those who think we'r going Zim's way do what is noble and offer good suggestions on the available platforms. Else, SA is democratic and they hv all the rights to either stay or leave. However I am on the side of staying and solving this together with us. Not always fleeing away from challenges in cowardice.
Thanks Walton of Glasgow. This article is written by one of the pessimists. People who cant take problems and turn them into chalenges. There really is nothin impossible. We'l hv no recession, we'l hv Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth. May some of those who think we'r going Zim's way do what is noble and offer good suggestions on the available platforms. Else, SA is democratic and they hv all the rights to either stay or leave. However I am on the side of staying and solving this together with us. Not always fleeing away from challenges in cowardice.
Posted by: oscar, durban on 7:43am Mon 11 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Oscar[/bold] wrote:
Thanks Walton of Glasgow. This article is written by one of the pessimists. People who cant take problems and turn them into chalenges. There really is nothin impossible. We'l hv no recession, we'l hv Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth. May some of those who think we'r going Zim's way do what is noble and offer good suggestions on the available platforms. Else, SA is democratic and they hv all the rights to either stay or leave. However I am on the side of staying and solving this together with us. Not always fleeing away from challenges in cowardice.[/quote] Not:'we'l hv Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth'.
But: 'we'l hv NO Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth'
Thank you.
Oscar wrote:
Thanks Walton of Glasgow. This article is written by one of the pessimists. People who cant take problems and turn them into chalenges. There really is nothin impossible. We'l hv no recession, we'l hv Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth. May some of those who think we'r going Zim's way do what is noble and offer good suggestions on the available platforms. Else, SA is democratic and they hv all the rights to either stay or leave. However I am on the side of staying and solving this together with us. Not always fleeing away from challenges in cowardice.
Not:'we'l hv Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth'.
But: 'we'l hv NO Zim in SA and SA my land shall remain a land of hope and success in Africa of our birth'
Thank you.
Posted by: Kieran, Kingston, Jamaica on 4:37pm Mon 11 Feb 08
"Our country was built on the mines."
Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but the mining industry was built on the backs of poorly paid, overworked and mistreated black workers.
Bridgeland, please keep in mind that some newspaper readers are intelligent, well informed people. If you are unaware that the problems in SA are far more complex than your article suggests, and that the cause of these problems will not be remedied by parodying European models of governance, you should perhaps consider another line of work. In all seriousness, I would love to read a report on what positive activities you have seen or been involved with.
I am a Scott living in Jamaica, and understand the frustration of living in a country wracked by violence, poverty, corruption, power-cuts, inflation.... I think it's time we all look a little further, and dig a little deeper to find solutions.
I am happy that Walton is living in Glasgow, and free to criticize British society, it should be criticized, the UK and the US is currently wreaking havoc on the globe with it's warfare and destruction, at the expense of it's taxpayers. It is true the economies of the UK and the US are addicted to war, and have been for a very long time.
"Our country was built on the mines."
Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but the mining industry was built on the backs of poorly paid, overworked and mistreated black workers.
Bridgeland, please keep in mind that some newspaper readers are intelligent, well informed people. If you are unaware that the problems in SA are far more complex than your article suggests, and that the cause of these problems will not be remedied by parodying European models of governance, you should perhaps consider another line of work. In all seriousness, I would love to read a report on what positive activities you have seen or been involved with.
I am a Scott living in Jamaica, and understand the frustration of living in a country wracked by violence, poverty, corruption, power-cuts, inflation.... I think it's time we all look a little further, and dig a little deeper to find solutions.
I am happy that Walton is living in Glasgow, and free to criticize British society, it should be criticized, the UK and the US is currently wreaking havoc on the globe with it's warfare and destruction, at the expense of it's taxpayers. It is true the economies of the UK and the US are addicted to war, and have been for a very long time.
Posted by: Kieran, Kingston, Jamaica on 4:42pm Mon 11 Feb 08
here was a rather positive letter from the Jamaica Gleaner on Sunday.
http://www.jamaica-g
leaner.com/gleaner/2
0080210/letters/lett
ers1.html
LETTER OF THE DAY - 'Spiritual solution will rescue us from present catastrophe'
published: Sunday | February 10, 2008
The Editor, Sir:
The Bahá'í community of Jamaica, along with all well-thinking Jamaicans, is greatly concerned about the appalling, wanton disregard for human life.
Many suggestions presented to deal with crime and violence address the issue from a material perspective. The need for sincere spiritual interactions to give balance cannot be ignored; both go hand in hand.
Guns barking, dead bodies, hold-ups, and so on, are all manifestations of violence, but its origin takes place in the mind, the thought process.
Therefore, the mind must be purified of such malicious thoughts for the preservation of human life and dignity. We bring to mind the words of 'Abdu'l-Bahá, son of Baha'u'llah, the prophet-founder of the Bahá'í faith, who said: "There is nothing so heartbreaking and terrible as an outburst of human savagery! I charge you all that each one of you concentrate all the thoughts of your heart on love and unity. When a thought of war comes, oppose it by a stronger thought of peace. A thought of hatred must be destroyed by a more powerful thought of love. Thoughts of war bring destruction to all harmony, well-being, restfulness and content. Thoughts of love are constructive of brotherhood, peace, friendship, and happiness."
Love for the sake of God
'Abdu'l-Bahá encouraged us to love all persons for the sake of God, and not for themselves. "You will never become angry or impatient if you love them for the sake of God. Humanity is not perfect. There are imperfections in every human being, and you will always become unhappy if you look toward the people themselves. But if you look towards God, you will love them and be kind to them, for the world of God is the world of perfection and complete mercy."
This way of living and thinking is a challenge which requires much practice, but it is the spiritual solution that will rescue us from our present catastrophe. We take this opportunity to offer to your readers a prayer and a wish that with God's help, we as a people may rise up with nobility and love our neighbours as we love ourselves.
Prayer for Mankind
"O Thou kind Lord! Thou hast created all humanity from the same stock. Thou hast decreed that all shall belong to the same household. In Thy holy presence they are all Thy servants, and all mankind are sheltered beneath Thy tabernacle; all have gathered together at Thy table of bounty; all are illumined through the light of Thy providence.
O God! Thou art kind to all. Thou hast provided for all, dost shelter all, conferrest life upon all. Thou hast endowed each and all with talents and faculties, and all are submerged in the ocean of Thy mercy.
O Thou kind Lord! Unite all. Let the religions agree and make the nations one, so that they may see each other as one family and the whole Earth as one home. May they all live together in perfect harmony.
O God! Raise aloft the banner of the oneness of mankind.
O God! Establish the most great peace.
Cement Thou, O God, the hearts together.
O Thou kind Father, God! Gladden our hearts through the fragrance of Thy love. Brighten our eyes through the light of Thy guidance. Delight our ears with the melody of Thy word, and shelter us all in the stronghold of Thy providence.
Thou art the mighty and powerful, Thou art the forgiving and Thou art the one who overlooketh the shortcomings of all mankind."
- 'Abdu'l-Bahá
With best regards,
NATIONAL SPIRITUAL ASSEMBLY
of The Bahá'ís of JAMAICA
here was a rather positive letter from the Jamaica Gleaner on Sunday.
http://www.jamaica-g
leaner.com/gleaner/2
0080210/letters/lett
ers1.html
LETTER OF THE DAY - 'Spiritual solution will rescue us from present catastrophe'
published: Sunday | February 10, 2008
The Editor, Sir:
The Bahá'í community of Jamaica, along with all well-thinking Jamaicans, is greatly concerned about the appalling, wanton disregard for human life.
Many suggestions presented to deal with crime and violence address the issue from a material perspective. The need for sincere spiritual interactions to give balance cannot be ignored; both go hand in hand.
Guns barking, dead bodies, hold-ups, and so on, are all manifestations of violence, but its origin takes place in the mind, the thought process.
Therefore, the mind must be purified of such malicious thoughts for the preservation of human life and dignity. We bring to mind the words of 'Abdu'l-Bahá, son of Baha'u'llah, the prophet-founder of the Bahá'í faith, who said: "There is nothing so heartbreaking and terrible as an outburst of human savagery! I charge you all that each one of you concentrate all the thoughts of your heart on love and unity. When a thought of war comes, oppose it by a stronger thought of peace. A thought of hatred must be destroyed by a more powerful thought of love. Thoughts of war bring destruction to all harmony, well-being, restfulness and content. Thoughts of love are constructive of brotherhood, peace, friendship, and happiness."
Love for the sake of God
'Abdu'l-Bahá encouraged us to love all persons for the sake of God, and not for themselves. "You will never become angry or impatient if you love them for the sake of God. Humanity is not perfect. There are imperfections in every human being, and you will always become unhappy if you look toward the people themselves. But if you look towards God, you will love them and be kind to them, for the world of God is the world of perfection and complete mercy."
This way of living and thinking is a challenge which requires much practice, but it is the spiritual solution that will rescue us from our present catastrophe. We take this opportunity to offer to your readers a prayer and a wish that with God's help, we as a people may rise up with nobility and love our neighbours as we love ourselves.
Prayer for Mankind
"O Thou kind Lord! Thou hast created all humanity from the same stock. Thou hast decreed that all shall belong to the same household. In Thy holy presence they are all Thy servants, and all mankind are sheltered beneath Thy tabernacle; all have gathered together at Thy table of bounty; all are illumined through the light of Thy providence.
O God! Thou art kind to all. Thou hast provided for all, dost shelter all, conferrest life upon all. Thou hast endowed each and all with talents and faculties, and all are submerged in the ocean of Thy mercy.
O Thou kind Lord! Unite all. Let the religions agree and make the nations one, so that they may see each other as one family and the whole Earth as one home. May they all live together in perfect harmony.
O God! Raise aloft the banner of the oneness of mankind.
O God! Establish the most great peace.
Cement Thou, O God, the hearts together.
O Thou kind Father, God! Gladden our hearts through the fragrance of Thy love. Brighten our eyes through the light of Thy guidance. Delight our ears with the melody of Thy word, and shelter us all in the stronghold of Thy providence.
Thou art the mighty and powerful, Thou art the forgiving and Thou art the one who overlooketh the shortcomings of all mankind."
- 'Abdu'l-Bahá
With best regards,
NATIONAL SPIRITUAL ASSEMBLY
of The Bahá'ís of JAMAICA
Posted by: NONIMOUS, South Africa on 5:52am Tue 12 Feb 08
This article was written by someone who is probably headless and probably not a South Africa. South Africa is doing fine. Things are not as bad as they have been written on this article
This article was written by someone who is probably headless and probably not a South Africa. South Africa is doing fine. Things are not as bad as they have been written on this article
Posted by: NONIMOUS, South Africa on 5:55am Tue 12 Feb 08
Poeple are so against Zuma, can anyone point a leader on this earth even in the bible who didnt do a mistake? From Goerge Bush to Robert Mugabe who is perfect?
Poeple are so against Zuma, can anyone point a leader on this earth even in the bible who didnt do a mistake? From Goerge Bush to Robert Mugabe who is perfect?
Posted by: Matthew on 6:27am Tue 12 Feb 08
The article is of course pessimistic...as are investors. The current situation in SA probably can be fixed but not in nearly enough time to repair the damage done to the confidence of foreign investors. Money makes the world go round unfortunately and SA has a serious struggle ahead. Who in their right mind would want to invest money in a country so poorly governed?!
The article is of course pessimistic...as are investors. The current situation in SA probably can be fixed but not in nearly enough time to repair the damage done to the confidence of foreign investors. Money makes the world go round unfortunately and SA has a serious struggle ahead. Who in their right mind would want to invest money in a country so poorly governed?!
Posted by: John, South Africa on 10:21am Tue 12 Feb 08
I want a country in this world that thus not have a share of it's own problems, people governing each democratic state are elected into power by the citizens of that country,I know of whites who will vote for th ANC in 2009,proving that the majority of South Africans are confident that what is going on in SA at present are not problems but challenges that can be solved if we stand together .those who leave SA to pursue a specific job opportunity or adventure, or simply to go and experience life in a different culture. To them I say, good luck and godspeed!! . those who leave the country with bitterness and hate, and somehow finds pleasure in bad mouthing SA in every possible way. To them, I say good riddance!!!
I want a country in this world that thus not have a share of it's own problems, people governing each democratic state are elected into power by the citizens of that country,I know of whites who will vote for th ANC in 2009,proving that the majority of South Africans are confident that what is going on in SA at present are not problems but challenges that can be solved if we stand together .those who leave SA to pursue a specific job opportunity or adventure, or simply to go and experience life in a different culture. To them I say, good luck and godspeed!! . those who leave the country with bitterness and hate, and somehow finds pleasure in bad mouthing SA in every possible way. To them, I say good riddance!!!
Posted by: Bheka Nkonyane on 2:18pm Tue 12 Feb 08
Sounds like a real hell-hole!
Unfortunately some of the things in the article are true for example high levels of violent crime, others are not as true, like rampant bribery and houses in France. According to Transparency International, only 3% of the South Africans surveyed paid a bribe in 2007.
We also continue to have an independent Judiciary and prosecution authority. Which is why people like Selebi(Police Commissioner) and Zuma face charges.
Power failures or "load shedding" are horrible, but California, Australia and others have had those and survived.
Yes things are rough, but a sensible, balanced approach is what we need, at home and abroad.
Sounds like a real hell-hole!
Unfortunately some of the things in the article are true for example high levels of violent crime, others are not as true, like rampant bribery and houses in France. According to Transparency International, only 3% of the South Africans surveyed paid a bribe in 2007.
We also continue to have an independent Judiciary and prosecution authority. Which is why people like Selebi(Police Commissioner) and Zuma face charges.
Power failures or "load shedding" are horrible, but California, Australia and others have had those and survived.
Yes things are rough, but a sensible, balanced approach is what we need, at home and abroad.
Posted by: Jake, London on 3:22pm Tue 12 Feb 08
This problem is not going to end unless, as mean as it may sound, they get over what has happened and want to make a change for themselves.
SA and Zim 2 of the most beautiful countries in the world will fall together. Its such a sad thing to write and it may seem that there is no hope but until people like NOMINOUS take their heads out their a** and look around any chance of change will be dimineshed. Mugabe is sick and no one should compare him to bush as that is really kind of a disgusting thing when you see what is going on there, yes people make mistakes but there really is no comparison. I just hope that the governments can get over themselves and ask for help, or the people of south africa and Zim make the right decision and show us that they will not just follow a leader over race but will take the only continent that has not yet become a super power and put it in the position that they can start to achieve this.
Some say not to judge these states by european standards but when the people are suffering and dont have a voice to speak out then maybe the world and the countries in africa need to re-evaluate.
I just want to say that I love SA with real love. The people are amazing and the potential is infinite. Instead of just complaining so people here dont have a go, ill list some suggestions for the country to make.
1) Stop affirmative action, and start more training schemes if someone is qualified to do the job then they can have it. SA is already a late bloomer, we all know what happened and we all feel horrible what went on, but to wait a few more years to train people and let the success of the country that was there before thrive again you will see more positive results.
2) A rewards Scheme for children in school. In the UK we have a scheme where children are given a government allowance/ reward for the days they turn up at school. This can be adjusted to fit SA.
3) Sort out the political scheme. Have 2 leaders at once, just to start out with, one black and one white things will even out much faster. Or a mixed political party.
4) Start implementing the idea of the Rainbow Nation. IT CANT JUST BE A PHRASE!!!!! it is probably the most over used term with no meaning or evidence that it is there.
5) Violence..... This has to be the one thing that is controlled as quickly as possible. Neighborhood watch/ security patrols/ more police/ BRING IN THE ARMY. With the violence, people will leave the country then there is no hope for a new start.
Its not going to be a quick thing to achieve this change but really if some of these things were implemented there will be a positive change.
But the first thing that has to be done is to find the voice of the people, cause if they are happy and want to be left alone then there is nothing anyone can do and they will ROTT away.
This problem is not going to end unless, as mean as it may sound, they get over what has happened and want to make a change for themselves.
SA and Zim 2 of the most beautiful countries in the world will fall together. Its such a sad thing to write and it may seem that there is no hope but until people like NOMINOUS take their heads out their a** and look around any chance of change will be dimineshed. Mugabe is sick and no one should compare him to bush as that is really kind of a disgusting thing when you see what is going on there, yes people make mistakes but there really is no comparison. I just hope that the governments can get over themselves and ask for help, or the people of south africa and Zim make the right decision and show us that they will not just follow a leader over race but will take the only continent that has not yet become a super power and put it in the position that they can start to achieve this.
Some say not to judge these states by european standards but when the people are suffering and dont have a voice to speak out then maybe the world and the countries in africa need to re-evaluate.
I just want to say that I love SA with real love. The people are amazing and the potential is infinite. Instead of just complaining so people here dont have a go, ill list some suggestions for the country to make.
1) Stop affirmative action, and start more training schemes if someone is qualified to do the job then they can have it. SA is already a late bloomer, we all know what happened and we all feel horrible what went on, but to wait a few more years to train people and let the success of the country that was there before thrive again you will see more positive results.
2) A rewards Scheme for children in school. In the UK we have a scheme where children are given a government allowance/ reward for the days they turn up at school. This can be adjusted to fit SA.
3) Sort out the political scheme. Have 2 leaders at once, just to start out with, one black and one white things will even out much faster. Or a mixed political party.
4) Start implementing the idea of the Rainbow Nation. IT CANT JUST BE A PHRASE!!!!! it is probably the most over used term with no meaning or evidence that it is there.
5) Violence..... This has to be the one thing that is controlled as quickly as possible. Neighborhood watch/ security patrols/ more police/ BRING IN THE ARMY. With the violence, people will leave the country then there is no hope for a new start.
Its not going to be a quick thing to achieve this change but really if some of these things were implemented there will be a positive change.
But the first thing that has to be done is to find the voice of the people, cause if they are happy and want to be left alone then there is nothing anyone can do and they will ROTT away.
Posted by: Candice, South Africa on 11:10am Wed 13 Feb 08
As a South African, it is always interesting to see how other countries perceive the situation here.
I myself, do not feel too affected by the political situation in the country- YET. But what I can say is that I am really tired of the crime here- violent crime. I have been hi-jacked, smash & grabbed and held up in an armed robbery by 5 armed men who beat my brother.
Am I expected to accept this- and put a smile on my face? I absolutely refuse to pretend that I am happy with my life here. I am only 24 years old and want to know what more can go wrong. I feel that people who complain about people being "pessimistic" have luckily not had anything happen to them- YET. In this country its a matter of when and not if.
When I immigrate from this country- I will not take the negative with me and put the country down- because perhaps one day- if things got better I would come back. But right now its not looking like it will- unless things change drastically.
As a South African, it is always interesting to see how other countries perceive the situation here.
I myself, do not feel too affected by the political situation in the country- YET. But what I can say is that I am really tired of the crime here- violent crime. I have been hi-jacked, smash & grabbed and held up in an armed robbery by 5 armed men who beat my brother.
Am I expected to accept this- and put a smile on my face? I absolutely refuse to pretend that I am happy with my life here. I am only 24 years old and want to know what more can go wrong. I feel that people who complain about people being "pessimistic" have luckily not had anything happen to them- YET. In this country its a matter of when and not if.
When I immigrate from this country- I will not take the negative with me and put the country down- because perhaps one day- if things got better I would come back. But right now its not looking like it will- unless things change drastically.
Posted by: Chris, South Africa on 1:55pm Wed 13 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Wullie[/bold] wrote:
Sadly it would appear that South Africa may be going the way of Rhodesia and all of the other failed African states. But that is the way of African politics and African culture. Relative democracy and stable societies are unfortunately hard to find in the African continent despite that continent\'s natural wealth.[/quote] [italic]"But that is the way of African politics and African culture."[/italic]
I take offense to this statement, not because South Africa is doing well ([bold]it is not[/bold] ) but because the author of this post generalize everything about South African politics, its people, and its culture. The author of this piece of text attempts to mould every citizen in South Africa to the same mould. Black and whites alike. I have a good recollection of how things were before the whites were forced to leave the country, as I am planning to do now.
Anyways - I am going to use this opportunity to perform some [italic]"gal braak"[/italic] - this is an expression we use in Afrikaans that indicates our profound unhappiness with someone or something. In essence, this means bringing up the bitter content from your stomach. Nice thought for a Wednesday afternoon. Stop reading here if strong political content bothers you. Otherwise, continue to read and see another picture. Here goes.
Everyone had this HUGE thing about Apartheid and how bad it was, and how bad the country was doing under the Apartheid regime, however, I believe that a lot of things at that time were better than they are now! Yes, there were crime, there were corruption, and there were injustices, but much less than now. Lots of people say that "we just don't know about all the crimes that took place then" - to those I have just a small piece of food-for-thought: With the political situation currently the way it is, don't you think the post-Apartheid government has investigated EVERY Apartheid leader and prominent person they could - to create a sense of justice to the world? Yes, they did. Some attempts were successful (and some were even justified), but some were a blatant misconstruction of what really happened, or searching for injustice where there simply weren't any. Think about that and weep.
One of the major reasons (no, not the only one) the economy suffered during Apartheid was because the hypocrites all over the world who blamed everything on Apartheid and instated sanctions against South Africa, making trade illegal. Americans have killed the native Indians like they were the pests of the world, but they want to have the "moral high ground" because of how the whites treated (treats) the blacks? Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house!
[bold]Ever heard of Reversed Apartheid?[/bold] This is exactly what is happening in South Africa at this moment in time. White men can barely get jobs nowadays. White men compete with total idiots for jobs, but don't get it, because the other candidate is black. Not better qualified; BLACK! Rediculous!
I studied at a prominent University in South Africa from 2002 to 2005. In those years I worked full time, studied part time, got my B. Sc. degree as well as my B. Sc. Honours degree in the same field of study, both in a period of four years, and in this same period, another person (coincidentally, a black person) who studied full time could not even finish two years of his studies. Now - before you blame me for generalizing that black people are stupid, let me just state for the record that I know of some white people who are not much more intelligent than the dirt under my shoes, but the reason I am stating this is because it is required information for the next point I want to accentuate (and elaborate on the same topic from the main article): mismanagement.
This student didn't pass the first year prerequisite for a second year subject, [italic]yet he was allowed to continue into the second year[/italic]? What the heck is that about? He asked me a trivial question once in the computer rooms at the university. For someone studying IT, finding the smallest item in an array is a very easy question - especially in your "second" year. Within 30 seconds or so, I wrote the small piece of program for him that sorted the array for him, and told him to do the rest (all he had to do now was to figure out whether I sorted it from large to small or from small to large, and then select either the first item or the last one...).
Contrary to my statement above, I am not the least bit bothered that he couldn't do it, because maybe IT is not his strong suit. Maybe he's a good singer, or a handy machinist, or even a future award-winning economist-to-be, but [bold]the fact that he was allowed to continue to the second year subjects without passing the first year prerequisites[/bold], because "the previously disadvantaged black people" have to get the same opportunities that us whities had. Go figure. Incompetence breeds incompetence. This is the type of black person that will compete with me for a job in our wonderful New South Africa. Our wonderful, collapsing Rainbow Nation with a National Anthem that is written in more languages than I care about. Who will get it? Odds are stacked in his favour, because he is previously disadvantaged. Poor thing.
Now - to those hypocrites who felt Apartheid was all evil and totally wrong [italic](and not partially right and partially wrong)[/italic] will finally realise that Apartheid was not always all *that* bad. Yes, I agree some things were WELL over the top, such as "no blacks allowed in town after 9pm" or such rules - but to blame the Apartheid for everything going wrong? Come on, grow up and smell the coffee! It is almost 2 decades after Apartheid ended - how long are they still going to blame it all on Apartheid?
A while ago, I was walking past a construction site where one white man and two black men were working on some sort of roofing project. I knew the white man, so I stopped to chat a bit. The white person looked at me, saw the Coke in my hand, and in an overly familiar tone, said he was thirsty. Okay, so I had a spare can of Coke with me. Only one, mind you, so I gave it to him (since he asked and all - not took it by force...). Shame, having to work outside in this heat! Immediately his black friend started accusing me of being guilty of Apartheid and what-have-you and being a racist and such. Nice. Very nice. No good deed goes unpunished. I did not have three cokes with me. The white man asked first, so he got it. Simple as that. What do you think I did? I took the Coke from the white person, opened it, and started drinking it in front of them while I stayed another while to talk with the white man. A bit harsh? Maybe. But because of that attitude, none of them had any thirst relief.
People are so quick to blame Apartheid for everything. But it is our white forefathers who broke away from the English rule in the early 1800s that made this country what it is today. We built the cities, we advanced the technology. Now, "misinformed everyone" says it is "because the blacks did not have the same opportunities than the whites to make this difference..." and to that I say "What a load of crock!" Look at other African countries. Even those that were without caucasian rule in the last century: VIOLENCE, CRIME, CORRUPTION, MISMANAGEMENT, POLITICAL FAVOURITISM. The WORKS! Some indiginous tribes in Southern Africa, such as te Bushmen, mostly refuse to "westernize". While this is admirable for their tribal values and core beliefs, it also indicates that they will ALWAYS be a predominantly primitive folk.
About cancelling the 2010 World Cup Soccer? Great idea. They will probably cut our electricity to provide for the soccer stadiums and surrounding areas, preventing us folks who can't be at every single game to miss out on the action. So - take it away, folks, I am not going to see any of it anyways, so why would I care?
I am proud to be a white South African, but no longer proud of my beautiful country, and I am hoping that ALL whites who share the same frustrations as I do, will follow my example of leaving this wretched place and let the Africans suffer all on their own. On the other hand, if you don't share my points of views, and want to call me a racist and an irrational idiot in a public forum, be my guest, post your comment in answer to mine (that is if my comment is not to hot for the Herald to handle, and it does not get deleted) :-)
Wullie wrote:
Sadly it would appear that South Africa may be going the way of Rhodesia and all of the other failed African states. But that is the way of African politics and African culture. Relative democracy and stable societies are unfortunately hard to find in the African continent despite that continent\'s natural wealth.
"But that is the way of African politics and African culture."
I take offense to this statement, not because South Africa is doing well (
it is not ) but because the author of this post generalize everything about South African politics, its people, and its culture. The author of this piece of text attempts to mould every citizen in South Africa to the same mould. Black and whites alike. I have a good recollection of how things were before the whites were forced to leave the country, as I am planning to do now.
Anyways - I am going to use this opportunity to perform some
"gal braak" - this is an expression we use in Afrikaans that indicates our profound unhappiness with someone or something. In essence, this means bringing up the bitter content from your stomach. Nice thought for a Wednesday afternoon. Stop reading here if strong political content bothers you. Otherwise, continue to read and see another picture. Here goes.
Everyone had this HUGE thing about Apartheid and how bad it was, and how bad the country was doing under the Apartheid regime, however, I believe that a lot of things at that time were better than they are now! Yes, there were crime, there were corruption, and there were injustices, but much less than now. Lots of people say that "we just don't know about all the crimes that took place then" - to those I have just a small piece of food-for-thought: With the political situation currently the way it is, don't you think the post-Apartheid government has investigated EVERY Apartheid leader and prominent person they could - to create a sense of justice to the world? Yes, they did. Some attempts were successful (and some were even justified), but some were a blatant misconstruction of what really happened, or searching for injustice where there simply weren't any. Think about that and weep.
One of the major reasons (no, not the only one) the economy suffered during Apartheid was because the hypocrites all over the world who blamed everything on Apartheid and instated sanctions against South Africa, making trade illegal. Americans have killed the native Indians like they were the pests of the world, but they want to have the "moral high ground" because of how the whites treated (treats) the blacks? Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house!
Ever heard of Reversed Apartheid? This is exactly what is happening in South Africa at this moment in time. White men can barely get jobs nowadays. White men compete with total idiots for jobs, but don't get it, because the other candidate is black. Not better qualified; BLACK! Rediculous!
I studied at a prominent University in South Africa from 2002 to 2005. In those years I worked full time, studied part time, got my B. Sc. degree as well as my B. Sc. Honours degree in the same field of study, both in a period of four years, and in this same period, another person (coincidentally, a black person) who studied full time could not even finish two years of his studies. Now - before you blame me for generalizing that black people are stupid, let me just state for the record that I know of some white people who are not much more intelligent than the dirt under my shoes, but the reason I am stating this is because it is required information for the next point I want to accentuate (and elaborate on the same topic from the main article): mismanagement.
This student didn't pass the first year prerequisite for a second year subject,
yet he was allowed to continue into the second year? What the heck is that about? He asked me a trivial question once in the computer rooms at the university. For someone studying IT, finding the smallest item in an array is a very easy question - especially in your "second" year. Within 30 seconds or so, I wrote the small piece of program for him that sorted the array for him, and told him to do the rest (all he had to do now was to figure out whether I sorted it from large to small or from small to large, and then select either the first item or the last one...).
Contrary to my statement above, I am not the least bit bothered that he couldn't do it, because maybe IT is not his strong suit. Maybe he's a good singer, or a handy machinist, or even a future award-winning economist-to-be, but
the fact that he was allowed to continue to the second year subjects without passing the first year prerequisites, because "the previously disadvantaged black people" have to get the same opportunities that us whities had. Go figure. Incompetence breeds incompetence. This is the type of black person that will compete with me for a job in our wonderful New South Africa. Our wonderful, collapsing Rainbow Nation with a National Anthem that is written in more languages than I care about. Who will get it? Odds are stacked in his favour, because he is previously disadvantaged. Poor thing.
Now - to those hypocrites who felt Apartheid was all evil and totally wrong
(and not partially right and partially wrong) will finally realise that Apartheid was not always all *that* bad. Yes, I agree some things were WELL over the top, such as "no blacks allowed in town after 9pm" or such rules - but to blame the Apartheid for everything going wrong? Come on, grow up and smell the coffee! It is almost 2 decades after Apartheid ended - how long are they still going to blame it all on Apartheid?
A while ago, I was walking past a construction site where one white man and two black men were working on some sort of roofing project. I knew the white man, so I stopped to chat a bit. The white person looked at me, saw the Coke in my hand, and in an overly familiar tone, said he was thirsty. Okay, so I had a spare can of Coke with me. Only one, mind you, so I gave it to him (since he asked and all - not took it by force...). Shame, having to work outside in this heat! Immediately his black friend started accusing me of being guilty of Apartheid and what-have-you and being a racist and such. Nice. Very nice. No good deed goes unpunished. I did not have three cokes with me. The white man asked first, so he got it. Simple as that. What do you think I did? I took the Coke from the white person, opened it, and started drinking it in front of them while I stayed another while to talk with the white man. A bit harsh? Maybe. But because of that attitude, none of them had any thirst relief.
People are so quick to blame Apartheid for everything. But it is our white forefathers who broke away from the English rule in the early 1800s that made this country what it is today. We built the cities, we advanced the technology. Now, "misinformed everyone" says it is "because the blacks did not have the same opportunities than the whites to make this difference..." and to that I say "What a load of crock!" Look at other African countries. Even those that were without caucasian rule in the last century: VIOLENCE, CRIME, CORRUPTION, MISMANAGEMENT, POLITICAL FAVOURITISM. The WORKS! Some indiginous tribes in Southern Africa, such as te Bushmen, mostly refuse to "westernize". While this is admirable for their tribal values and core beliefs, it also indicates that they will ALWAYS be a predominantly primitive folk.
About cancelling the 2010 World Cup Soccer? Great idea. They will probably cut our electricity to provide for the soccer stadiums and surrounding areas, preventing us folks who can't be at every single game to miss out on the action. So - take it away, folks, I am not going to see any of it anyways, so why would I care?
I am proud to be a white South African, but no longer proud of my beautiful country, and I am hoping that ALL whites who share the same frustrations as I do, will follow my example of leaving this wretched place and let the Africans suffer all on their own. On the other hand, if you don't share my points of views, and want to call me a racist and an irrational idiot in a public forum, be my guest, post your comment in answer to mine (that is if my comment is not to hot for the Herald to handle, and it does not get deleted) :-)
Posted by: Chris, South Africa on 3:02pm Wed 13 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Bheka Nkonyane[/bold] wrote:
Sounds like a real hell-hole! Unfortunately some of the things in the article are true for example high levels of violent crime, others are not as true, like rampant bribery and houses in France. According to Transparency International, only 3% of the South Africans surveyed paid a bribe in 2007. We also continue to have an independent Judiciary and prosecution authority. Which is why people like Selebi(Police Commissioner) and Zuma face charges. Power failures or "load shedding" are horrible, but California, Australia and others have had those and survived. Yes things are rough, but a sensible, balanced approach is what we need, at home and abroad.[/quote] "Only" 3%... 3 out of each 100 people admitted to paying a bribe. And that is called "only"? Hmmm... Probably the same reason why people don't see how bad things really are: they have come to live with it. They have come to expect it. They have come to believe that this is the way it has to be. They have come to believe that it has to be like that and that it is like that everywhere in the world.
Amazing.
Bheka Nkonyane wrote:
Sounds like a real hell-hole! Unfortunately some of the things in the article are true for example high levels of violent crime, others are not as true, like rampant bribery and houses in France. According to Transparency International, only 3% of the South Africans surveyed paid a bribe in 2007. We also continue to have an independent Judiciary and prosecution authority. Which is why people like Selebi(Police Commissioner) and Zuma face charges. Power failures or "load shedding" are horrible, but California, Australia and others have had those and survived. Yes things are rough, but a sensible, balanced approach is what we need, at home and abroad.
"Only" 3%... 3 out of each 100 people admitted to paying a bribe. And that is called "only"? Hmmm... Probably the same reason why people don't see how bad things really are: they have come to live with it. They have come to expect it. They have come to believe that this is the way it has to be. They have come to believe that it has to be like that and that it is like that everywhere in the world.
Amazing.
Posted by: Chris, South Africa on 3:09pm Wed 13 Feb 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
I want a country in this world that thus not have a share of it's own problems, people governing each democratic state are elected into power by the citizens of that country,I know of whites who will vote for th ANC in 2009,proving that the majority of South Africans are confident that what is going on in SA at present are not problems but challenges that can be solved if we stand together .those who leave SA to pursue a specific job opportunity or adventure, or simply to go and experience life in a different culture. To them I say, good luck and godspeed!! . those who leave the country with bitterness and hate, and somehow finds pleasure in bad mouthing SA in every possible way. To them, I say good riddance!!! [/quote] No, white people who will vote for the ANC in 2009 are either misinformed, ignorant or totally naive. Either that, or they think that the blacks will spare their lives should war erupt in South Africa. Now THAT is naive - almost as naive as the idea that war will erupt... They won't ask you "did you vote for the ANC?" before they assisinate you.
John wrote:
I want a country in this world that thus not have a share of it's own problems, people governing each democratic state are elected into power by the citizens of that country,I know of whites who will vote for th ANC in 2009,proving that the majority of South Africans are confident that what is going on in SA at present are not problems but challenges that can be solved if we stand together .those who leave SA to pursue a specific job opportunity or adventure, or simply to go and experience life in a different culture. To them I say, good luck and godspeed!! . those who leave the country with bitterness and hate, and somehow finds pleasure in bad mouthing SA in every possible way. To them, I say good riddance!!!
No, white people who will vote for the ANC in 2009 are either misinformed, ignorant or totally naive. Either that, or they think that the blacks will spare their lives should war erupt in South Africa. Now THAT is naive - almost as naive as the idea that war will erupt... They won't ask you "did you vote for the ANC?" before they assisinate you.
Posted by: Chris, South Africa on 3:15pm Wed 13 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Candice[/bold] wrote:
As a South African, it is always interesting to see how other countries perceive the situation here. I myself, do not feel too affected by the political situation in the country- YET. But what I can say is that I am really tired of the crime here- violent crime. I have been hi-jacked, smash & grabbed and held up in an armed robbery by 5 armed men who beat my brother. Am I expected to accept this- and put a smile on my face? I absolutely refuse to pretend that I am happy with my life here. I am only 24 years old and want to know what more can go wrong. I feel that people who complain about people being "pessimistic" have luckily not had anything happen to them- YET. In this country its a matter of when and not if. When I immigrate from this country- I will not take the negative with me and put the country down- because perhaps one day- if things got better I would come back. But right now its not looking like it will- unless things change drastically. [/quote] Candice,
You state that you have not yet seriously been affected by the political situation in South Africa. Yet, you state you have been hi-jacked, smash&grabbed and help up in an armed robbery. If that is not directly and seriously affected, I don't know what is. Maybe that is the problem with us South Africans. We are used to worse than this - therefore we don't see things as serious as they really are.
We would all like to see things get better, however, we all must make our own little difference to make this work. And with the way things are now, I don't WANT to make the effort to make a difference, because I have no confidence that anything I can do will indeed make a difference. Sad isn't it?
Candice wrote:
As a South African, it is always interesting to see how other countries perceive the situation here. I myself, do not feel too affected by the political situation in the country- YET. But what I can say is that I am really tired of the crime here- violent crime. I have been hi-jacked, smash & grabbed and held up in an armed robbery by 5 armed men who beat my brother. Am I expected to accept this- and put a smile on my face? I absolutely refuse to pretend that I am happy with my life here. I am only 24 years old and want to know what more can go wrong. I feel that people who complain about people being "pessimistic" have luckily not had anything happen to them- YET. In this country its a matter of when and not if. When I immigrate from this country- I will not take the negative with me and put the country down- because perhaps one day- if things got better I would come back. But right now its not looking like it will- unless things change drastically.
Candice,
You state that you have not yet seriously been affected by the political situation in South Africa. Yet, you state you have been hi-jacked, smash&grabbed and help up in an armed robbery. If that is not directly and seriously affected, I don't know what is. Maybe that is the problem with us South Africans. We are used to worse than this - therefore we don't see things as serious as they really are.
We would all like to see things get better, however, we all must make our own little difference to make this work. And with the way things are now, I don't WANT to make the effort to make a difference, because I have no confidence that anything I can do will indeed make a difference. Sad isn't it?
Posted by: Chris, South Africa on 3:51pm Wed 13 Feb 08
Oh, and with all the name changes nowadays? Jan Smuts airport becomes Johannesburg International. Very good. Very neutral name. Very clear on where it is, what it is, and what you can do there.
To many people in South Africa (including some whites) the name Jan Smuts is an offensive one. So, changing the airport name to Johannesburg International Airport made perfect sense. But... Behold! They renamed it again! Oh my word! It is now O. R. Tambo International Airport. Why not leave it at Johannesburg International?
Peter Mokaba, the ANC youth leader (or something) that said "kill the farmer, kill the boer" is getting streets renamed in his honour? What a bunch of nonsense! If you want to rename something, rename it to something worth being renamed to!
The town of Potchefstroom. The name coming partly from the name of a prominent white leader (Potgieter) in the early 1800's, is suddenly offensive. They want to change the name of Potchefstroom now to Thlokwe (however that is spelt - I don't care). Thlokwe! There is a large beer factory in Potchefstroom where they brew some sort of beer for the masses. The factory's name is Thlokwe. Now they want to call the town after a beer factory? Supposedly the word means something about a beautiful stream or something, which probably refers to the "Mooi river" which flows (or used to flow) through Potchefstroom, but that is not the association people have with the word!
Let's not start about the costs of such renaming exercises. Let's see... Recreating all your stationary for your offices. Creating new name boards for your houses, the costs of actually putting up the new street and town names everywhere. Maybe they should just give that money to the poor - would be better used that way...
Oh, and with all the name changes nowadays? Jan Smuts airport becomes Johannesburg International. Very good. Very neutral name. Very clear on where it is, what it is, and what you can do there.
To many people in South Africa (including some whites) the name Jan Smuts is an offensive one. So, changing the airport name to Johannesburg International Airport made perfect sense. But... Behold! They renamed it again! Oh my word! It is now O. R. Tambo International Airport. Why not leave it at Johannesburg International?
Peter Mokaba, the ANC youth leader (or something) that said "kill the farmer, kill the boer" is getting streets renamed in his honour? What a bunch of nonsense! If you want to rename something, rename it to something worth being renamed to!
The town of Potchefstroom. The name coming partly from the name of a prominent white leader (Potgieter) in the early 1800's, is suddenly offensive. They want to change the name of Potchefstroom now to Thlokwe (however that is spelt - I don't care). Thlokwe! There is a large beer factory in Potchefstroom where they brew some sort of beer for the masses. The factory's name is Thlokwe. Now they want to call the town after a beer factory? Supposedly the word means something about a beautiful stream or something, which probably refers to the "Mooi river" which flows (or used to flow) through Potchefstroom, but that is not the association people have with the word!
Let's not start about the costs of such renaming exercises. Let's see... Recreating all your stationary for your offices. Creating new name boards for your houses, the costs of actually putting up the new street and town names everywhere. Maybe they should just give that money to the poor - would be better used that way...
Posted by: Concerned, South Africa on 12:22pm Thu 14 Feb 08
The article does reflect the truth, South Africa is slipping, it's all true, every last word. I'm a South African, I've been shot, had family killed and all sorts of other nonsense. I hate South Africa and curse the fact that I was born in a country with such a short-sighted criminal government, stupid and arrogant beyond reason. And all the bleeding heart liberals who think it still has a chance? Go ahead, I'll swop you my passport for yours in a heartbeat, give you a home, a car everything, take everything. I'd rather be homeless in a real country than rich in this festering cess pit.
The article does reflect the truth, South Africa is slipping, it's all true, every last word. I'm a South African, I've been shot, had family killed and all sorts of other nonsense. I hate South Africa and curse the fact that I was born in a country with such a short-sighted criminal government, stupid and arrogant beyond reason. And all the bleeding heart liberals who think it still has a chance? Go ahead, I'll swop you my passport for yours in a heartbeat, give you a home, a car everything, take everything. I'd rather be homeless in a real country than rich in this festering cess pit.
Posted by: Chris, South Africa on 10:10am Fri 15 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Concerned[/bold] wrote:
The article does reflect the truth, South Africa is slipping, it\'s all true, every last word. I\'m a South African, I\'ve been shot, had family killed and all sorts of other nonsense. I hate South Africa and curse the fact that I was born in a country with such a short-sighted criminal government, stupid and arrogant beyond reason. And all the bleeding heart liberals who think it still has a chance? Go ahead, I\'ll swop you my passport for yours in a heartbeat, give you a home, a car everything, take everything. I\'d rather be homeless in a real country than rich in this festering cess pit. [/quote] Concerned! Bravo. Well said. I will throw my car into the pool as well. Anyone of you liberals want it? It's a really nice car. I promise. 1800cc engine is running smoothly, nice mags, good sound...
Concerned wrote:
The article does reflect the truth, South Africa is slipping, it\'s all true, every last word. I\'m a South African, I\'ve been shot, had family killed and all sorts of other nonsense. I hate South Africa and curse the fact that I was born in a country with such a short-sighted criminal government, stupid and arrogant beyond reason. And all the bleeding heart liberals who think it still has a chance? Go ahead, I\'ll swop you my passport for yours in a heartbeat, give you a home, a car everything, take everything. I\'d rather be homeless in a real country than rich in this festering cess pit.
Concerned! Bravo. Well said. I will throw my car into the pool as well. Anyone of you liberals want it? It's a really nice car. I promise. 1800cc engine is running smoothly, nice mags, good sound...
Posted by: Cuan Elgin on 8:08pm Wed 20 Feb 08
[bold]bold[/bold] It seems unthinkable that a govt composed of people who were themselves discriminated against racially for 40 years should, on being handed the reins of power in a peaceful, democratic election in 1994, re-impose that very same system on the white minority, albiet under a variety of different guises. That is the real problem with South Africa today- legislated black racism. It excludes skilled whites from every kind of para-statal job, and places incompetents in key positions, with huge salaries. Affirmative action and 'black economic empowerment' are racism, pure and simple. Scrap all racist legislation, appoint on merit, and the whites will enthusiastically re-energize the economy.
It seems unthinkable that a govt composed of people who were themselves discriminated against racially for 40 years should, on being handed the reins of power in a peaceful, democratic election in 1994, re-impose that very same system on the white minority, albiet under a variety of different guises. That is the real problem with South Africa today- legislated black racism. It excludes skilled whites from every kind of para-statal job, and places incompetents in key positions, with huge salaries. Affirmative action and 'black economic empowerment' are racism, pure and simple. Scrap all racist legislation, appoint on merit, and the whites will enthusiastically re-energize the economy.
Posted by: David Taylor, New Zealand on 10:22pm Wed 20 Feb 08
Having lived in South Africa for 22 years I returned to NZ in 2003 after seeing the "transformation" of a first rate world class economy with respected institutions, world class infrastructure, hospitals, etc. into a shambles. The shambles ocurred under the guise of "Africanisation". How one can Africanise a nuclear power station, a rail service, a highway or a hospital, is beyond my understanding. When the 1994 elections were completed we all expected that Mandela was the man to lead SA into a brave new future. Some thought the sun would rise in the west! Some were more realistic. South Africa, said one acquaintance, will go the same as the rest of Africa. It will just take a little longer because there is more to undo. Albert Schweitzer wasn't wrong in his summary either and he spent all his life in AFrica..
Having lived in South Africa for 22 years I returned to NZ in 2003 after seeing the "transformation" of a first rate world class economy with respected institutions, world class infrastructure, hospitals, etc. into a shambles. The shambles ocurred under the guise of "Africanisation". How one can Africanise a nuclear power station, a rail service, a highway or a hospital, is beyond my understanding. When the 1994 elections were completed we all expected that Mandela was the man to lead SA into a brave new future. Some thought the sun would rise in the west! Some were more realistic. South Africa, said one acquaintance, will go the same as the rest of Africa. It will just take a little longer because there is more to undo. Albert Schweitzer wasn't wrong in his summary either and he spent all his life in AFrica..
Posted by: Aadil, South Africa on 1:53am Thu 21 Feb 08
The article is very true, but it paints anything but the complete picture. As a South African living in Johannesburg, I can tell you the biggest concerns for South Africans are:
1. Crime
2. The Power Crisis (However substantial steps are finally being taken)
3. Government lack of action on critical issues.
People should realise that many members of SA's ruling party are not stupid. They are however detached from reality. They believe problems can be fixed with legislation, when in reality the situation on the ground needs better management.
I have no doubt Jacob Zuma is one of the many corrupt politicians in SA, but aren't all politicians corrupt (irrespective of race).
To all the doomsday prophets, SA will not follow Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). The future (next 10 to 15 years) is bright. 2008 will be a challenging year, but 2009 to 2012 are going to huge for South Africa. South Africa’s economy continues to grow at unprecedented levels and while many challenges exist, the government has made huge strides in addressing the imbalances of the past. The world is a tough place to live. Every passing day seems to get harder and we all seem to need work harder. All the while, the wealthy get wealthier and the poor get poorer. This basic challenge is aggravated by South Africa’s historical situation of huge levels of illiteracy and unemployment.
For me, the only reason to leave South Africa would be Crime. The violent crime is absolutely intolerable. Unfortunately, this is caused by a culture which accepts/condones violence. In South Africa, we have a huge uneducated population (mostly blacks) who have been victimised (initially by the Apartheid Government, and then by fellow blacks through crime). The crime situation is a combination of poverty, drugs and an inefficient justice system which is unable to successfully break down criminal structures.
Lessons should be learnt from the situation in South Africa. Violence and oppression of a sector of a population is not a good long term strategy. Every person should be educated. Failure to do so will result in terrible problems in the future. I can only imagine the problems future generations will face in Israel/Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon and huge parts of Africa, as a result of the constant violence children are subjected to. In Palestine, children do not go to school and instead are taught to hate Israelis. Do Israeli’s really believe the strategy of collective punishment is wise for their long term future?
[bold]
We will always be faced with ignorant people who will resort to violence, but those of us with intelligence and power must rise above / lead / teach. This is our only way forward.[/bold]
The article is very true, but it paints anything but the complete picture. As a South African living in Johannesburg, I can tell you the biggest concerns for South Africans are:
1. Crime
2. The Power Crisis (However substantial steps are finally being taken)
3. Government lack of action on critical issues.
People should realise that many members of SA's ruling party are not stupid. They are however detached from reality. They believe problems can be fixed with legislation, when in reality the situation on the ground needs better management.
I have no doubt Jacob Zuma is one of the many corrupt politicians in SA, but aren't all politicians corrupt (irrespective of race).
To all the doomsday prophets, SA will not follow Zimbabwe (Rhodesia). The future (next 10 to 15 years) is bright. 2008 will be a challenging year, but 2009 to 2012 are going to huge for South Africa. South Africa’s economy continues to grow at unprecedented levels and while many challenges exist, the government has made huge strides in addressing the imbalances of the past. The world is a tough place to live. Every passing day seems to get harder and we all seem to need work harder. All the while, the wealthy get wealthier and the poor get poorer. This basic challenge is aggravated by South Africa’s historical situation of huge levels of illiteracy and unemployment.
For me, the only reason to leave South Africa would be Crime. The violent crime is absolutely intolerable. Unfortunately, this is caused by a culture which accepts/condones violence. In South Africa, we have a huge uneducated population (mostly blacks) who have been victimised (initially by the Apartheid Government, and then by fellow blacks through crime). The crime situation is a combination of poverty, drugs and an inefficient justice system which is unable to successfully break down criminal structures.
Lessons should be learnt from the situation in South Africa. Violence and oppression of a sector of a population is not a good long term strategy. Every person should be educated. Failure to do so will result in terrible problems in the future. I can only imagine the problems future generations will face in Israel/Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon and huge parts of Africa, as a result of the constant violence children are subjected to. In Palestine, children do not go to school and instead are taught to hate Israelis. Do Israeli’s really believe the strategy of collective punishment is wise for their long term future?
We will always be faced with ignorant people who will resort to violence, but those of us with intelligence and power must rise above / lead / teach. This is our only way forward. Posted by: TKD, South Africa on 8:42am Thu 21 Feb 08
As a hard working South African - this article hits the nail on the head!
Racism is alive and very well - just turned around (now its black to white)...
The apartheids horse's is still being ridden even after 14 years of democracy. Incorrectly applying "BEE" is destroying not only on government level but also pains private sector
Our energy minister tells us to "go to sleep earlier to grow and be cleverer" to save electricity
Our health minister believe garlic and beetroot is a HIV cure.
Our next "president" who does not even have matric publicly portrays it's ok to rape and just take a shower not to contract disease. And of course a corruption case against you is a pre-requisite to be in the ANC government.
I am a full grown man who is scared every day of my life - not only for myself but my defenseless family. My friends and family has been shot / hi-jacked / held at gunpoint for a cellphone, robbed numerous times...
And now some ignorant UK "patriot" makes the statement that the article is not "correct" and baised...
Africa is a hard place my friend - you will not survive a week here...
As a hard working South African - this article hits the nail on the head!
Racism is alive and very well - just turned around (now its black to white)...
The apartheids horse's is still being ridden even after 14 years of democracy. Incorrectly applying "BEE" is destroying not only on government level but also pains private sector
Our energy minister tells us to "go to sleep earlier to grow and be cleverer" to save electricity
Our health minister believe garlic and beetroot is a HIV cure.
Our next "president" who does not even have matric publicly portrays it's ok to rape and just take a shower not to contract disease. And of course a corruption case against you is a pre-requisite to be in the ANC government.
I am a full grown man who is scared every day of my life - not only for myself but my defenseless family. My friends and family has been shot / hi-jacked / held at gunpoint for a cellphone, robbed numerous times...
And now some ignorant UK "patriot" makes the statement that the article is not "correct" and baised...
Africa is a hard place my friend - you will not survive a week here...
Posted by: Anonymous, South Africa on 11:44am Thu 21 Feb 08
Ok So everyone here saying it's not so bad here.
Pls go to these news sites
http://www.news24.co
m/News24/South_Afric
a/Home/0,,2-7,00.htm
l (Todays news)
Read it daily, you might wake up a little ;)
Ok So everyone here saying it's not so bad here.
Pls go to these news sites
http://www.news24.co
m/News24/South_Afric
a/Home/0,,2-7,00.htm
l (Todays news)
Read it daily, you might wake up a little ;)
Posted by: Durbanite, Durban on 12:45pm Thu 21 Feb 08
There is nothing inaccurate about that article. There are no lies being told.
So what about us non-professional whites who are third and fourth generation citizens not permitted to go back to Europe? Do we just wait to be murdered and further disenfranchised? Will the world hold support rallies for us who now live under the suppression of Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment?
If I could leave this pace tomorrow I would. I would disappear and never look back. But I have no place to go.
There is nothing inaccurate about that article. There are no lies being told.
So what about us non-professional whites who are third and fourth generation citizens not permitted to go back to Europe? Do we just wait to be murdered and further disenfranchised? Will the world hold support rallies for us who now live under the suppression of Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment?
If I could leave this pace tomorrow I would. I would disappear and never look back. But I have no place to go.
Posted by: The Crab, Cape Town on 11:53am Fri 22 Feb 08
Very interesting article which I agree with completely. For those that think things are all nice and cosy down south and look to be getting better, think again.
The people are leaving in droves. Recent statistics point at upwards of 8000+ skilled people of all races are leaving a month.
Zim 2.0 here we come - I will be watching from afar just as soon as I can secure a position in another country.
Very interesting article which I agree with completely. For those that think things are all nice and cosy down south and look to be getting better, think again.
The people are leaving in droves. Recent statistics point at upwards of 8000+ skilled people of all races are leaving a month.
Zim 2.0 here we come - I will be watching from afar just as soon as I can secure a position in another country.
Posted by: Aadil, South Africa on 12:19pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]The Crab[/bold] wrote:
Very interesting article which I agree with completely. For those that think things are all nice and cosy down south and look to be getting better, think again.
The people are leaving in droves. Recent statistics point at upwards of 8000+ skilled people of all races are leaving a month.
Zim 2.0 here we come - I will be watching from afar just as soon as I can secure a position in another country.[/quote] Okay, when you guys leave sell me your house on the cheap, cos you're so panicky the country's going to fall apart (you did that post '94).
And when you realise that every place has it's challenges, send me an email to say how you were hasty and overly-pessimistic. And since you're probably going to be leaving for New Zealand, Australia, Canada or the UK, let me know how those places aren't all they're cracked up to be and how life is really hard; Even after working twice as hard, you're now living in a shoddy little place which is twice the price of your (previous) SA home.
People who supposedly leaving in their droves aren't thinking clearly. If you're going to leave why all the usual places? Why haven't white South Africans considered other countries like Sweden or Norway. Surely language can't be that much of a stumbling block for a highly educated bunch like yourselves. And if you're so intent on leaving form a lobby group to get you into countries like Italy and France who desperately need young workers (especially the white kind).
[bold]I repeat, the world's a tough place. Where ever you go, you'll need to lose this defeatist attitude or you'll be eaten alive.[/bold]
The Crab wrote:
Very interesting article which I agree with completely. For those that think things are all nice and cosy down south and look to be getting better, think again.
The people are leaving in droves. Recent statistics point at upwards of 8000+ skilled people of all races are leaving a month.
Zim 2.0 here we come - I will be watching from afar just as soon as I can secure a position in another country.
Okay, when you guys leave sell me your house on the cheap, cos you're so panicky the country's going to fall apart (you did that post '94).
And when you realise that every place has it's challenges, send me an email to say how you were hasty and overly-pessimistic. And since you're probably going to be leaving for New Zealand, Australia, Canada or the UK, let me know how those places aren't all they're cracked up to be and how life is really hard; Even after working twice as hard, you're now living in a shoddy little place which is twice the price of your (previous) SA home.
People who supposedly leaving in their droves aren't thinking clearly. If you're going to leave why all the usual places? Why haven't white South Africans considered other countries like Sweden or Norway. Surely language can't be that much of a stumbling block for a highly educated bunch like yourselves. And if you're so intent on leaving form a lobby group to get you into countries like Italy and France who desperately need young workers (especially the white kind).
I repeat, the world's a tough place. Where ever you go, you'll need to lose this defeatist attitude or you'll be eaten alive. Posted by: Johan Van Vlaams, Flanders in Belgium on 2:34pm Fri 22 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Walton[/bold] wrote:
As a white South African living Scotland, it\'s always interesting to observe reports of my country\'s immanent demise in the papers. It\'s also really sad how all the racists and Afro-pessimists crawl out of their holes, rubbing their greasy paws with glee at yet more evidence of African failure. I am surprised that Bridgland\'s one-sided, simplistic and factually inaccurate article even got published. He simply parrots the views of South Africa\'s white opposition party, and ignores the perspectives of the Black majority. It is true that there is a lot seriously wrong with South Africa - one of the reasons I am in temporary exile. I am also appalled at the South African government, which has delivered so much less than we hoped for. Yet I visit South Africa regularly (I was there when Zuma beat Mbeki to become ANC president), and the reality is far more complex and nuanced than this article suggests. Despite serious problems, the country is far from a lot cause. Despite everything, the country today is infinitely better than it was under apartheid, and it is still a work in progress. To suggest that South Africa is heading the way of Zimbabwe and other failed African states is an ignorance and superficiality of analysis that is astounding in an international correspondent - Bridgland doesn\'t deserve to write for newspapers if he can\'t come up with better than his pessimistic tales of woe. I have more faith in South Africa\'s future than in Britain\'s. It\'s the UK that really frightens me, with it\'s addiction to war, overblown sense of importance and the intrusive surveillance of all it\'s citizens.[/quote] By this I conclude that the South African “Good News Ministry” already spreads to Scotland.
As a Flemish, who as a matter of fact, also can read the Afrikaans-speaking press, I fully agree with the author.
BTW, I already wrote such articles three years ago, see THE BOER GENOCIDE http://majorityright
s.com/index.php/webl
og/comments/the_boer
_genocide/
Walton wrote:
As a white South African living Scotland, it\'s always interesting to observe reports of my country\'s immanent demise in the papers. It\'s also really sad how all the racists and Afro-pessimists crawl out of their holes, rubbing their greasy paws with glee at yet more evidence of African failure. I am surprised that Bridgland\'s one-sided, simplistic and factually inaccurate article even got published. He simply parrots the views of South Africa\'s white opposition party, and ignores the perspectives of the Black majority. It is true that there is a lot seriously wrong with South Africa - one of the reasons I am in temporary exile. I am also appalled at the South African government, which has delivered so much less than we hoped for. Yet I visit South Africa regularly (I was there when Zuma beat Mbeki to become ANC president), and the reality is far more complex and nuanced than this article suggests. Despite serious problems, the country is far from a lot cause. Despite everything, the country today is infinitely better than it was under apartheid, and it is still a work in progress. To suggest that South Africa is heading the way of Zimbabwe and other failed African states is an ignorance and superficiality of analysis that is astounding in an international correspondent - Bridgland doesn\'t deserve to write for newspapers if he can\'t come up with better than his pessimistic tales of woe. I have more faith in South Africa\'s future than in Britain\'s. It\'s the UK that really frightens me, with it\'s addiction to war, overblown sense of importance and the intrusive surveillance of all it\'s citizens.
By this I conclude that the South African “Good News Ministry” already spreads to Scotland.
As a Flemish, who as a matter of fact, also can read the Afrikaans-speaking press, I fully agree with the author.
BTW, I already